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harry reid can't lead a senate to doing fiscally responsible things. >> or anything. >> i'm not sure i understand what you were saying. if you're indicating that the republicans should go out and say they support the sequester, think you were saying the same thing. that's political suicide for them. even though it may be the right thing what happens is once the sequester takes effect if there are layoffs and people rebel against it, republicans are solely owning that. they are responsible for that. >> it's the president's idea. the white house came up with it. >> the republicans are saying they want the sequester. >> the president threatened to veto. they said we want to undo part of the sequester. the president said, i will veto that if you do. he's completely changed his tune. he's flip-flopping all over the place. this is his sequester. he came up with with it, signed it into law and republicans are saying, remember, this whole sequester is from the 2011 -- this is two-year-old spending cuts. we need to cut spending. >> by the way, it's not going to hurt the economy and the countr
harry reid can't lead a senate to doing fiscally responsible things. >> or anything. >> i'm not sure i understand what you were saying. if you're indicating that the republicans should go out and say they support the sequester, think you were saying the same thing. that's political suicide for them. even though it may be the right thing what happens is once the sequester takes effect if there are layoffs and people rebel against it, republicans are solely owning that. they are...
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if harry reid comes out tonight and says no deal. >> which he did. he did say. >> there is no more conversation tonight, i would not be surprised immediately tomorrow they take back at least half of what they -- they give back 150 points, half of what they took today. >> if we're talking about doing something -- negotiations that take place over the next six week, and the government is either open or it's not open. let's assume it opens before six weeks. >> right. >> either way you're going to see a lot more volatility it seems to me and that the market is going to react as it did today to headlines and to every twitch and twitter to somebody saying something or clearing their throat on capitol hill. >> the key is at some point down the road, the shutdown does affect the economy. >> absolutely. >> and profits. >> that's what is going on here. the debt crisis was a much bigger, more immediate issue with the u.s. treasury defaulting on debt. and i've argued until i'm blue in the face, never, never, never, never. and it's about 30% of the budget, by the
if harry reid comes out tonight and says no deal. >> which he did. he did say. >> there is no more conversation tonight, i would not be surprised immediately tomorrow they take back at least half of what they -- they give back 150 points, half of what they took today. >> if we're talking about doing something -- negotiations that take place over the next six week, and the government is either open or it's not open. let's assume it opens before six weeks. >> right....
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so is senator harry reid. the reason we're at this impasse is because senator reid hasn't passed an appropriations bill in two years. that's the primary function of congress is to authorize the activity of the federal government and then fund it, pass appropriation bills. we haven't been doing that in the senate. we've been utterly awol, derelict in our duties. that's the reason we're in this position. but we have to maintain the leverage if we're ever going to get president obama to start stepping up to the plate and addressing our long-term debt and deficit issues. >> historically during this recent period, democrats in the senate -- i don't know about the house. the house is a little more split. but democrats in the senate have been totally opposed to entitlement reform of any kind, even the stuff like cost-of-living adjustments that obama is in favor of. do you think that logjam can ever be broken? >> only with information and political pressure. i was involved in some of those white house discussions. wha
so is senator harry reid. the reason we're at this impasse is because senator reid hasn't passed an appropriations bill in two years. that's the primary function of congress is to authorize the activity of the federal government and then fund it, pass appropriation bills. we haven't been doing that in the senate. we've been utterly awol, derelict in our duties. that's the reason we're in this position. but we have to maintain the leverage if we're ever going to get president obama to start...
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harry reid? all this nonsense could have been put to rest if they'd taken pat toomey's bill and they wouldn't do it, bob. that's why i think they're insincere and trying to cause trouble. >> you're right. there's a false sense of hysteria out there and a lot of it has to do on the president's side. let's remember one thing here, larry and robert. the president needs to show leadership. he is the head of our executive branch. and one should make the argument he should be negotiating in full faith behind closed doors. 17 years ago when it was bill clinton on the stage, bill clinton had partisan jabs from a public standpoint, but behind the scenes he was negotiating, showing leadership, and behind the scenes he was literally conceding different points. we don't see that with this white house. >> i was saying, i couldn't disagree more respectfully, robert. if democrats refuse to raise the debt ceiling for unrelated issues saying they want on-demand abortion across the country, they'd be laughed out o
harry reid? all this nonsense could have been put to rest if they'd taken pat toomey's bill and they wouldn't do it, bob. that's why i think they're insincere and trying to cause trouble. >> you're right. there's a false sense of hysteria out there and a lot of it has to do on the president's side. let's remember one thing here, larry and robert. the president needs to show leadership. he is the head of our executive branch. and one should make the argument he should be negotiating in...
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harry reid and even some republicans are now talking tax hikes. don't do it, gop, it's a big mistake. get this, the president doesn't even think we need spending cuts. that's all. listen to what he just said a few hours ago in brooklyn. >> session with cutting just for the sake cutting hasn't helped our economy to grow it's held it back. it won't help us build a better society for your again regulate. and by the way, it's important to remember, for those who are following the news, our deficits are getting smaller. they have been cut in half since i took office. >> unbelievable. president doesn't want spending cuts, democrats and even some republicans want tax hikes. not good. all those stories and much more coming up in the kudlow report beginning right now. >>> good evening everyone i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report". we're live here at 7:00 p.m. eastern and 4:00 p.m. pacific. the obama administration is making bold new obama care promises this evening. the man charged with fixing obama care has broken site, former omb acting director
harry reid and even some republicans are now talking tax hikes. don't do it, gop, it's a big mistake. get this, the president doesn't even think we need spending cuts. that's all. listen to what he just said a few hours ago in brooklyn. >> session with cutting just for the sake cutting hasn't helped our economy to grow it's held it back. it won't help us build a better society for your again regulate. and by the way, it's important to remember, for those who are following the news, our...
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the president and harry reid and nancy pelosi now smell blood. and they're going to be very few changes or reforms around the edges in order to get out of this mess. rather than have grand tax reform or a grand bargain, the odds have gone up dramatically that it's going to be trench warfare heading into the political season. that means bad news for any immigration bill, whether small or big. it means -- believe me, there were a lot of nervous democrats on obama care. privately, a lot of nervous democrats know obama care is, shall we say, problematic. but the chances of convincing the president to go along with any of that are gone. >> the republicans stepped on their best line. >> right. what is the enemy of growth right now? it's uncertainty, high tax rates, policy -- >> obama care regulations. >> epa regulations. all of those are now more likely to be static, not changing for the next 14 months. that's bad news for the country -- >> at least ryan -- i give ryan credit. ryan wants to make the good fight on the pro-growth issues. it's the first t
the president and harry reid and nancy pelosi now smell blood. and they're going to be very few changes or reforms around the edges in order to get out of this mess. rather than have grand tax reform or a grand bargain, the odds have gone up dramatically that it's going to be trench warfare heading into the political season. that means bad news for any immigration bill, whether small or big. it means -- believe me, there were a lot of nervous democrats on obama care. privately, a lot of nervous...
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stopped dead by harry reid in the senate. we're going leave it there. congressman tom mcclintock, thanks very much. and i hope your bill passes. talk about bad timing. blake zeff nailed it. just as president obama and the democrats refuse to negotiate over the new health care law, the list of its problems continues to grow. every day brings new stories of glitches with the registration process, sticker shock, and massive confusion. today was no different. nobody is hardly signing up. and we're going to have the latest on the unpleasant obama care surprise just ahead. and please don't forget, folks. free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. you need a basic government bond market to survive. we have one. someone should that's to the president. i'm kudlow, and i'll be back after this. bny mellon combines investment management & investment servicing, giving us unique insights which help us attract the industry's brightest minds who create powerful strategies for a country's investments which are used to build new schools to build more bright m
stopped dead by harry reid in the senate. we're going leave it there. congressman tom mcclintock, thanks very much. and i hope your bill passes. talk about bad timing. blake zeff nailed it. just as president obama and the democrats refuse to negotiate over the new health care law, the list of its problems continues to grow. every day brings new stories of glitches with the registration process, sticker shock, and massive confusion. today was no different. nobody is hardly signing up. and we're...
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harry reid said this was a nonstarter. even something as simple and basic as that, they won't entertain that idea. >> what would happen if mr. boehner then just proposes a clean bill? does it pass the house with democratic votes or not? >> i don't think you'll see republicans want to support that. we want to do something fair. that's why we floelted this idea. we want to delay this thing. we thought this would help to get to that. it looks like that's not going to go. >> do you think any other provisions will come up as you all meet tonight? besides the car of ocarve out f federal government. delay is a hot topic. anything that may come into the bill? >> i don't know. you're right, joe manchin has been on record saying he supports it. the unreasonableness of the democrats to even entertain a simple concept like we put forward today, like we did the last five weeks. we're getting labeled as strapping bombs to our chest and this is so simple, so fair, so basic and they can't even take that. >> one last one on this whole stor
harry reid said this was a nonstarter. even something as simple and basic as that, they won't entertain that idea. >> what would happen if mr. boehner then just proposes a clean bill? does it pass the house with democratic votes or not? >> i don't think you'll see republicans want to support that. we want to do something fair. that's why we floelted this idea. we want to delay this thing. we thought this would help to get to that. it looks like that's not going to go. >> do...
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that of course was speak john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid, both speaking after the meeting this evening at the white house. joining us is john harwood, our panel is still with me. chris kofina, kelly ann, and gene. that was a great interview, actually you had a lot of restrained on your side of the aisle, which is fascinating. i enjoy that very much. >> let me go to your interview, which we've been discussing. did you learn anything regarding the possibility of a fiscal grand design, or other solutions to the c.r.? or other compromise on health care? was there anything new that jumped out at all? >> reporter: a couple things, la irry. first of all, he drew that hard line between when he would negotiate and when he wouldn't. when he would is after they reopened the government and raised the debt ceiling. it's a tough line for republicans to cross, but the president said he's determined to break the fever of crisis governance, and also determined to resist what house republicans are doing or attempting to do on his health care plan, which they're not going to succeed
that of course was speak john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid, both speaking after the meeting this evening at the white house. joining us is john harwood, our panel is still with me. chris kofina, kelly ann, and gene. that was a great interview, actually you had a lot of restrained on your side of the aisle, which is fascinating. i enjoy that very much. >> let me go to your interview, which we've been discussing. did you learn anything regarding the possibility of a fiscal...
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right now house republicans keep pushing, so does harry reid. i think the shutdown will continue to endure unless one side blinks and the other side wants it. >> senator hutchinson, welcome back. this seems tougher, a little more ill will than usual. you tell me what you're thinking here. >> you're absolutely right. there is more ill will because the president and congress just cannot get together. the president says we're not going to negotiate at all, period. you can't do that. there were two branches of government here at stake. you have the presidency, you have congress. you've got to come together. reagan showed it. tip o'neill showed it. come on. i agree to your point. i love the football analogy. i'm a good yankee. >> you're from texas, i know. >> it's right though. you have to fight another day. i mean, we can't win this particular battle at this particular time. we fought. i was voting against obama care on christmas eve, larry, and we lost. now we've got to take it to the people. we've got to take it up on the debt limit for god's sake
right now house republicans keep pushing, so does harry reid. i think the shutdown will continue to endure unless one side blinks and the other side wants it. >> senator hutchinson, welcome back. this seems tougher, a little more ill will than usual. you tell me what you're thinking here. >> you're absolutely right. there is more ill will because the president and congress just cannot get together. the president says we're not going to negotiate at all, period. you can't do that....
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he knows the senate majority leader harry reid counts on legal, lawful gun owners for his narrow re-elections every six years. he knows senators like mary landrieu in louisiana, mark pryor in arkansas are never going to vote for this and are going to be angry if it's put up to a vote because they very well may use. but let me say this. you said very few. the number actually that we see in the press is 4%. 4% of all gun-related crimes are traced back to their actual owners. the problem for the president's statistics is he keeps using this 40% statistic that has been discredited including by the "washington post" today, and he repeats it and repeats it. kirsten jill brande said it recently. michael bloomberg said it. it's based on a 20-year-old poll and the duke university professor who presided over that poll was asked by politifact said do you think this is right? he said i have no idea, it's a 20-year-old poll. it's a sample of 250 people, which is a small wedding where -- >> you're confusing statistics here. >> no, the president is. >> the 40-4% number that robert was mentioning or brian wa
he knows the senate majority leader harry reid counts on legal, lawful gun owners for his narrow re-elections every six years. he knows senators like mary landrieu in louisiana, mark pryor in arkansas are never going to vote for this and are going to be angry if it's put up to a vote because they very well may use. but let me say this. you said very few. the number actually that we see in the press is 4%. 4% of all gun-related crimes are traced back to their actual owners. the problem for the...
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>> as you mentioned in your opening, sequestration, democrats are pushing harry reid to get some kind of sequestration fixes. they want to change the budget control levels from the 2011 spending bill. >> will they? i'm going to ask an odd question. when you look at how this whole thing progressed from big reforms, defunding obama care and rolling back obama care for a year or so, all that seems to be off the table. maybe there's a little obama care stuff in there, maybe. we don't even know that. maybe the republicans would have been better off taking a clean bill, clean debt ceiling right away, clean continuing resolution right away. they sure didn't get what they thought they were going to get. >> senate republicans expect harry reid to back off these sequestration requests. reid knows that will not pass the republican house. what the offer is right now as it stands is an extension of the debt ceiling and a funding bill for the government into early 2014, plus a budget conference. this would be further tax talks and entitlement talks later this year. that would be required as part of
>> as you mentioned in your opening, sequestration, democrats are pushing harry reid to get some kind of sequestration fixes. they want to change the budget control levels from the 2011 spending bill. >> will they? i'm going to ask an odd question. when you look at how this whole thing progressed from big reforms, defunding obama care and rolling back obama care for a year or so, all that seems to be off the table. maybe there's a little obama care stuff in there, maybe. we don't...
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harry reid said it over the weekend. you know that was coordinated. probably wrecked the stock market. that worries me. will the republicans absolutely oppose it? that's the question. >> i think they will. i think boehner has a different view on the realities of negotiating with obama than he did before. it's like lucy with the football. you think you have taken care of the revenue piece. not going to raise revenues through loophole raisings and restructuring. now they're back. there is no amount of tax increase. it will be carbon taxes, vat taxes. there is an unlimited appetite for increased revenue, not achieved the way you and i would like to achieve increased revenue by growing the pie, doubling the salaries of everybody and increasing revenue that way. they do it through games of rate increases and closed loopholes without the necessary underlying tax reform. >> they have a rate increase and closing loopholes. the idea was rate cuts. they didn't really forget it. >> any more than he forgot jobs in his inaugural address. >> what i see in the same
harry reid said it over the weekend. you know that was coordinated. probably wrecked the stock market. that worries me. will the republicans absolutely oppose it? that's the question. >> i think they will. i think boehner has a different view on the realities of negotiating with obama than he did before. it's like lucy with the football. you think you have taken care of the revenue piece. not going to raise revenues through loophole raisings and restructuring. now they're back. there is...
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he was represented by harry reid which is an encouple bruns on obama. this is where they made the last stand, as you noted, they lost it and gave it up. can i assume you also believe the sequester is here to stay for the 10 -year period? >> i don't think it will last that long. i think they will eventually negotiate and get out of this i think for the for seeable future, i think -- foreseeable future, there will be an impact. it won't be on the people flying on the aircraft. it will be on the people who depend on headstart, the people that depend on pem grants. those will be reduced. it will be the people that need the help from the federal government, not on the rich and powerful, the people flying airplanes every week. >> listen, if the democrats would like to replace, parlay the sequester, i think that would be an interesting conversation. the whole thing to place a sequester with about $500 in additional tax hikes, that's not happening. >> i thought it was a trillion. i thought it was a trillion. >> right. so we're talking close to a trillion over t
he was represented by harry reid which is an encouple bruns on obama. this is where they made the last stand, as you noted, they lost it and gave it up. can i assume you also believe the sequester is here to stay for the 10 -year period? >> i don't think it will last that long. i think they will eventually negotiate and get out of this i think for the for seeable future, i think -- foreseeable future, there will be an impact. it won't be on the people flying on the aircraft. it will be on...
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but harry reid wants a clean debt bill that's woo take uld t through 2014. speaker boehner can't get a clean did you tell biebt bill o believes. and rob portman has a bill that has conditions. where is the path to solving this? that's the part i don't see. >> it's a great question and i think we should all pay attention to senator portman from ohio because what he's proposing is a clean cr and a clean debt limit extension, but adding on to that tax reform. and not tax reform that happens in this compressed period, but tax reform instructions, legislative instructions to have a tax reform panel or commission in the coming year. and that perhaps is one concession, one figure leaf the republican leadership can bring back to conservatives and say we got something. wasn't big, but we won something. >> just to go with that again senator portman's coming on tomorrow, he does want to raise the debt limit and couple that with a spending equivalent. he'll take president obama at his word. this is the key point. besides tax reform, what rob portman has is he wants the
but harry reid wants a clean debt bill that's woo take uld t through 2014. speaker boehner can't get a clean did you tell biebt bill o believes. and rob portman has a bill that has conditions. where is the path to solving this? that's the part i don't see. >> it's a great question and i think we should all pay attention to senator portman from ohio because what he's proposing is a clean cr and a clean debt limit extension, but adding on to that tax reform. and not tax reform that happens...
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. >> i would take it and hold on it to and kind of when they come in, harry reid, come on, harry reid wants a trillion dollar tax hike. >> the point is, we're not going to sign up for a tax increase. look, if people see this effort as an excuse to raise taxes, it's not going to be successful. that's not what we're here for. we didn't come here to raise taxes. >> two huge tax increase thes. we're interesting in reforming the tax code. not as a measure of raising tax revenues. we think you can get more revenue through more economic growth. that's the kind of thing we're in favor of. we also want to get auto the drivers of our debt. so they want up front stimulus, which is not what we're going to do. because it didn't work the last time. we believe in pro growth economics, point one, point two, the reason i like the budget control act is it did put spending caps. >> right. >> now the sequester is going to lower spending caps. the question is, is in the interim, in this moment we are in, can we get even smarter an better deficit reduction that actually helps us get the debt under control
. >> i would take it and hold on it to and kind of when they come in, harry reid, come on, harry reid wants a trillion dollar tax hike. >> the point is, we're not going to sign up for a tax increase. look, if people see this effort as an excuse to raise taxes, it's not going to be successful. that's not what we're here for. we didn't come here to raise taxes. >> two huge tax increase thes. we're interesting in reforming the tax code. not as a measure of raising tax revenues....
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now the signers of this letter were harry reid, dick durbin, chuck schumer and patty murray. speaker boehner said "senate democrats cannot ignore their responsibilities for political convenience. and the american people will not tolerate an increase in the debt limit without spending cuts and reforms." larry, let me tell you what i think is going on here. i think these democrats are trying to send a signal both to the white house but also to republicans involved in this debate that they would like to see or be comfortable with the president going with what they call the constitutional option, which is challenging the debt ceiling itself on constitutional grounds based on the 14th amendment to the constitution which says that the debt of the united states shall be respected. so their argument would be in that case that it is simply unconstitutional to have a debt ceiling at all. and they say that congress -- the president rather would be able to do that without invoking congress or meeting congress in any way. >> section 4, 14th amendment, validity of the public debt of the un
now the signers of this letter were harry reid, dick durbin, chuck schumer and patty murray. speaker boehner said "senate democrats cannot ignore their responsibilities for political convenience. and the american people will not tolerate an increase in the debt limit without spending cuts and reforms." larry, let me tell you what i think is going on here. i think these democrats are trying to send a signal both to the white house but also to republicans involved in this debate that...
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. >> frankly by refusing to negotiation, harry reid and the president are putting our country on a pretty dangerous pa path. listen, there's never been a president in the history that has never negotiated over the debt limit, never. >> just what will get the democrats to the negotiating table. former omb chairman, rob portman is developing a bipartisan deal on his own. is it too late to brake your impasse, with whatever it is. senator, thank you so much for your time. i just want to ask you. we've been kicking this around. you're smarter than we are here on the panel. the president was ambiguous today. he said he would take a short term continuing resolution and a short term debt increase, i don't know, six weeks, he didn't specify, and then he said, and after we've got these things he would be willing to negotiate but no one figured negotiate the short term, when, how, why? how do you read this? >> it's just ridiculous that the president won't sit down and talk with us. john boehner made a good point, larry. you know well i worked for two presidents, bush xli and xliii. it's not somethin
. >> frankly by refusing to negotiation, harry reid and the president are putting our country on a pretty dangerous pa path. listen, there's never been a president in the history that has never negotiated over the debt limit, never. >> just what will get the democrats to the negotiating table. former omb chairman, rob portman is developing a bipartisan deal on his own. is it too late to brake your impasse, with whatever it is. senator, thank you so much for your time. i just want to...
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he actually goes out and embraces the disaster that he has caused with harry reid and nancy pelosi and he tries to fix it. and i didn't hear that. i don't care about the apology either. i care about the fact that i just came from my show where a guy called me from san diego, he's got a family of six, he'll pay more than $10,000 more next year. this is a disaster in and the president is a bystander. >> it isn't the computer thing. i know they will fix the computer at some point. the real problem is cans link the insurance contract and second problem is resigning up and having to pay much higher premiums and deductibles. i don't see how the democrats get out of that. >> we have the plan, it's the law, it's about to happen. and a lot of conservatives don't like it, a lot of americans don't like it. the key here is all we've seen from the right frankly has been an effort to repeal, repeal, repeal. that's obviously not going to happen. the question now is, and we were talking about this in the earlier block, what happens now to try to fix this. and i think you're right, that will be interes
he actually goes out and embraces the disaster that he has caused with harry reid and nancy pelosi and he tries to fix it. and i didn't hear that. i don't care about the apology either. i care about the fact that i just came from my show where a guy called me from san diego, he's got a family of six, he'll pay more than $10,000 more next year. this is a disaster in and the president is a bystander. >> it isn't the computer thing. i know they will fix the computer at some point. the real...
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reid and begin to address our problems. >> all right. i think speaker boehner is right. the country is waiting for spending cuts for a change, not tax hikes. i still make this case, by the way. lower spending, limited government. it's good for the economy and will also be good for stocks. we'll be right back on "the kudlow report." how do you keep an older car running like new? you ask a ford customer. when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going to take care of my car because this is where it came from. price is right no problem, they make you feel like you're a family. get a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation and much more, $29.95 after $10.00 rebate. if you take care of your car your car will take care of you. >>> welcome back to "the kudlow report." i'm larry kudlow. in th
reid and begin to address our problems. >> all right. i think speaker boehner is right. the country is waiting for spending cuts for a change, not tax hikes. i still make this case, by the way. lower spending, limited government. it's good for the economy and will also be good for stocks. we'll be right back on "the kudlow report." how do you keep an older car running like new? you ask a ford customer. when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if...
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that was harry reid specifically demanding that. now they're saying this guy wants to be secretary of defense right now. we can't ask him about x, y, z. his business partners or even get the speeches he's given. >> if you can't fill out your financial disclosure forms -- look i've been through this process. you have to. fbi is checking you. you got the fbi rechecking you. you've got secret service people checking you. jimmy williams, i'm sorry. i got to completely disagree. going to give kevin the first shot. i don't think the democrats are so hot on hagel. they don't like him on israel. they don't like him on the social issues. and they sure as heck didn't like his testimony on what he knows and doesn't know about the pentagon because he didn't know much. why are the democrats going to lay down for this? >> if i were the democrats and i'm looking at a republican whose foreign policy views are very popular with the likes of pat buchanan, might have some second thoughts about that. nice a guy as pat is, his foreign policy view ace li
that was harry reid specifically demanding that. now they're saying this guy wants to be secretary of defense right now. we can't ask him about x, y, z. his business partners or even get the speeches he's given. >> if you can't fill out your financial disclosure forms -- look i've been through this process. you have to. fbi is checking you. you got the fbi rechecking you. you've got secret service people checking you. jimmy williams, i'm sorry. i got to completely disagree. going to give...